"The Chinese of the Eastern States"

Carroll Wright and French Canadian Immigration

Carroll D. Wright, as a statistician, no doubt scarcely imagined his 1881 report on labor statistics in Massachusetts would cause controversy. He was, he would say later, just reporting what he had been told by his researchers. But that was not true. He interpreted the information, and from his interpretation he launched into a broadside attack on an entire class of immigrants, the French Canadians, whom he dubbed, "the Chinese of the Eastern States." His words were picked up by newspapers and became slurs thrown at French Canadian workers on mill floors. French Canadian journalists and lawyers struck back, organizing mass meetings and passing resolutions to the Massachusetts legislature, which turned them back to Wright and the Bureau of Statistics of Labor. Wright responded by inviting the French leaders to present contrary evidence at a hearing. Wright professed surprise that they would be offended, and, in both his oral remarks and his written report, he defended his use of the term.

The controversy gives us insight both into attitudes towards French Canadians and the actual lives of French Canadians immigrants in the early 1880s. Wright's comments have been often quoted, but less attention has been paid to the responses from the French Canadian leaders. Their defense of their countrymen includes testimony of government, school, and business leaders, and statistical information on that status of French Canadians in some of the most important mill towns of New England.

On this page, I'm going to let Wright and his critics speak for themselves, by reprinting the documentation form the 12th and 13th annual reports of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

For more on the background of the controversy, see John McClymer, "Carroll D. Wright and Workers' Budgets," in Ballard C. Campbell, ed., The Challenges of Change: American Lives, 1870-1920 (Scholarly Resources, 1999).

On repatriation, see Rapatriement, "Events, Issues and Concepts of Quebec History."

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Carroll D. Wright

Joseph Henri Guillet

Hugo Adelard Dubuque

Primary Sources

Carroll D. Wright, "Uniform Hours of Labor." Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Twelfth Annual Report of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor (Boston: Rand, Avery, & Co., 1881), pp. 469-471.

The third objection to ten hours is the presence of the Canadian French. Wherever they appear, there their presence is urged as a reason why the hours of labor should not be reduced to ten.

The reasons for this urgency are not far to find. With some exceptions the Canadian French are the Chinese of the Eastern States. They care nothing for our institutions, civil, political, or educational. They do not come to make a home among us, to dwell with us as citizens, and so become a part of us; but their purpose is merely to sojourn a few years as aliens, touching us only at a single point, that of work, and, when they have gathered out of us what will satisfy their ends, to get them away to whence they came, and bestow it there. They are a horde of industrial invaders, not a stream of stable settlers. Voting, with all that it implies, they care nothing about, Rarely does one of them become naturalized. They will not send their children to school if they can help it, but endeavor to crowd them into the mills at the earliest possible age. To do this they deceive about the age of their children with brazen effrontery. They deceive also about their schooling, declaring that they have been to school the legal time, when they know they have not, and do not intend that they shall. And when at length they are cornered by the school officers, and there is no other  escape, often they scrabble together what few things they have, and move away to some other place where they are unknown, and where they hope by a repetition of the same deceits to escape the schools entirely, and keep the children at work right on in the mills. And when, as is indeed sometimes the case, any of them are so situated that they cannot escape at all, then the stolid indifference of the children wears out the teacher with what seems to be an idle task. These people have one good trait. They are indefatigable workers, and docile. All they ask is to be set to work, and they care little who rules them or how they are ruled. To earn all they can by no matter how many hours of toil, to live in the most beggarly way so that out of their earnings they may spend as little for living as possible, and to carry out of the country what they can thus save: this is the aim of the Canadian French in our factory districts. Incidentally they must have some amusements; and, so far as the males are concerned, drinking and smoking and lounging constitute the sum of these.

Now, it is not strange that so sordid and low a people should awaken corresponding feelings in the managers, and that these should feel that, the longer the hours for such people, the better, and that to work them to the uttermost is about the only good use they can be put to. Nor is it strange that this impression is so strong, that the managers overlook for the time being all the rest of the operatives, and think that every thing should be shaped to these lowest ones. Yet the same principle which we have stated as showing the right way of conduct in the former case should direct here also. Society should be shaped to the better portion of the people; and where the case requires it the laws should be so amended and enforced that these people will either be coerced to conform to our established ways, or else go where the already established ways of the country do please them.

It thus appears, from a full survey of the whole field, that the objections urged against the universal adoption of a ten-hour day are not really serious obstacles. A little resolute energy, and some improvements in methods, and they will all vanish. It appears also that there is no economic hinderance to block the way of a ten-hour day. If all would act together, and make the change, then all will be in equally as good a condition for success as now. There is, therefore, but one real obstacle to a universal ten-hour day, and that is the inertia of men. The impulse to move, and the leadership to direct in large affairs, these are all that are needed to effect the change.  

Carroll D. Wright, "The Canadian French in New England." Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Thirteenth Annual Report of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor (Boston: Rand, Avery, & Co., 1882), pp. 3-92.

The legislature of 1880 passed the following

Resolve relative to a Uniform System of Laws in Certain States, regulating the Hours of Labor.

Resolved, That the Bureau of Statistics of Labor is hereby directed to collect data and obtain testimony from employers and employιs in the States of Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and New York, relative to a uniform system of laws to regulate the hours of labor in the States mentioned, and to present the results of its investigations to the legislature in its next annual report.

Approved March 17,1880.

The results of the investigation conducted under this resolve were fully reported in the Twelfth Annual Report of this Bureau. In discussing the reasons urged by parties why the Massachusetts system should not be adopted in neighboring States, we said, —

" In all our investigations we have found but three serious objections urged against the adoption of ten hours, and these we will now state."

After stating the first and second objections urged against the adoption of the ten-hour system, we gave a rιsumι of the third in the following language (see pp. 469-470): —

"The third objection to ten hours is the presence of the Canadian French. Wherever they appear, there their presence is urged as a reason why the hours of labor should not be reduced to ten. The reasons for this urgency are not far to find.

"With some exceptions the Canadian French are the Chinese of the Eastern States. They care nothing for our institutions, civil, political, or educational. They do not come to make a home among us, to dwell with us as citizens, and so become a part of us; but their purpose is merely to sojourn a few years as aliens, touching us only at a single point, that of work, and, when they have gathered out of us what will satisfy their ends, to get them away to whence they came, and bestow it there. They are a horde of industrial invaders, not a stream of stable settlers. Voting, with all that it implies, they care nothing about. Rarely does one of them become naturalized. They will not send their children to school if they can help it, but endeavor to crowd them into the mills at the earliest possible age. To do this they deceive about the age of their children with brazen effrontery. They deceive also about their schooling, declaring that they have been to school the legal time, when they know they have not, and do not intend that they shall. And when at length they are cornered by the school officers, and there is no other escape, often they scrabble together what few things they have, and move away to some other place where they are unknown, and where they hope by a repetition of the same deceits to escape the schools entirely, and keep the children at work right on in the mills. And when, as is indeed some times the case, any of them are so situated that they cannot escape at all, then the stolid indifference of the children wears out the teacher with what seems to be an idle task.

"These people have one good trait. They are indefatigable workers, and docile. All they ask is to be set to work, and they care little who rules them or how they are ruled. To earn all they can by no matter how many hours of toil, to live in the most beggarly way so that out of their earnings they may spend as little for living as possible, and to carry out of the country what they can thus save: this is the aim of the Canadian French in our factory districts. Incidentally they must have some amusements; and, so far as the males are concerned, drinking and smoking and lounging constitute the sum of these."

These statements met the earnest and patriotic condemnation of the Canadian French of New England; and the French residents of Lowell and Hudson in Massachusetts passed series of resolutions on the subject, and sent them to the legislature during its session of 1881. These resolutions, by concurrent vote, were referred without other action to this Bureau.

The resolutions are as follows: —

Lowell, Mass., May, 1881.

Hon. Charles J. Noyes, Speaker of the Home of Representatives: —

Sir, — The " Sociιtι St. Jean Baptiste de Lowell, Mass.," a national and benevolent society of the Canadian French of Lowell, organized in 1869 and incorporated in 1870, according to the laws of the Commonwealth, at a regular meeting held May 4, 1881, unanimously adopted the following resolutions: —

RESOLUTIONS.

Whereas, The Chief of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor, in his Twelfth Annual Report to the Hon. Charles J. Noyes, Speaker of the House of Representatives of the Commonwealth, denounced the presence of the Canadian French as an objection to the system of ten hours' labor, calling them the "Chinese of the East; a horde of industrial invaders; a deceitful people who seek their amusements in drinking, smoking, and lounging," etc., etc, — it is

Resolved, That we deny each and every accusation contained in said report, and that we protest most energetically against these insinuations made against the French Canadians of the Eastern States.

Resolved, That it is the duty of all and every French Canadian in New England to strongly protest against this report so far as it concerns them.

Resolved, That a copy of these presents be submitted to the legislature of this Commonwealth, with our prayers to consider.

J. W. PARADIS, President.
J. H. GUILLET, Secretary.

A true copy of the record —

Attest:  J. H. GUILLET, Secretary.

 

Lowell, May, 1881.

Hon. Charles J. Noyes, Speaker of the House of Representatives: —

Sir, — The French Canadians of Lowell, feeling aggrieved at the report of Col. Carroll D. Wright, Chief of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor, assembled at a mass-meeting, May 5, 1881, and passed the following resolutions, which they humbly present for your consideration:—

RESOLUTIONS.

Whereas, The Chief of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor, in his report to the Hon. Charles J. Noyes, Speaker of the House of Representatives of Massachusetts, declares that the presence of the French Canadians in the Eastern States is an objection to the system of ten hours of labor in manufacturing establishments; and

Whereas, Lowell is the greatest manufacturing district of the Eastern States, and the number of French Canadians is much greater than in any other centre in New England; and

Whereas, We recognize unanimously the wisdom of the ten-hour system,—

Resolved, That we protest energetically against this portion of the report of the Bureau of Statistics, as being entirely groundless; and

Whereas, For the past fifteen years, agents of the manufacturers have been sent to Canada to solicit its inhabitants to come to the States, promising them good places and good wages; and

Whereas, By repeated invitations this class of population has come to this section to live in this land of liberty; and

Whereas, The Chief of the Bureau of Statistics in his report called them "the Chinese of the East:" it is

Resolved, That we deny with indignation the epithet, and protest strongly against this portion of the report as being injurious to our race.

Whereas, We Canadian French of New England are yet, for the most part, ignorant of the English language, but as soon as we become acquainted with the language, and the habits and customs of this country we recognize the high wisdom of the institutions, —

Resolved, That we protest against the part of the report which says that "we do not care for the institutions — civil, political, or educational — in this country."

Whereas, Since the French Canadians have come to this section they hare reached a population of four hundred thousand in New England: and whereas a large number have become proprietors, paying large taxes: and whereas for the most part the young men propose to make their home here, —

Resolved, That we, protest against the portion of the report which says that we "are a horde of industrial invaders."

Whereas, We have to live five years in this country before we can become citizens of this glorious Republic, and the French Canadians have been here in large numbers but five or six years, there are over two hundred voters of this class in Lowell alone, —

Resolved, That we protest with energy against the portion of the report which says, that "voting, with all that it implies, they care nothing about, nor rarely does one of them become naturalized."

Whereas, We recognize the necessity of sending our children to school, and having done so continually, petitioning the city of Lowell to find schoolrooms for our children, —

Resolved, That we protest strongly against the portion of the report which says "that they will not send their children to school if they can help it, and that they deceive also about their schooling with brazen effrontery."

Resolved, That whereas the French Canadians of Lowell have established two national benevolent societies, two literary societies which give literary and dramatic representations twice a month, a band that give occasional public concerts, and three societies for children, furnishing them with proper amusements; and

Whereas, In our population, which is above ten thousand in Lowell, the average found guilty of intoxication before the police court of Lowell is not over twelve per annum: it is

Resolved, That we protest strongly against the portion of the report which says that "drinking and smoking and lounging are the sum of their amusements."

J. H. GUILLET, President.
E. H. KING, Secretary.

A true copy — Attest: E. H. KING, Secretary.

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LOWELL, May, 1881.

Hon. Charles J. Noyes, Speaker of the House of Representatives: —

Sir, —"L' Association des Jeunes Gens Catholiques," a literary society of Lowell, Mass., organized in 1878, at a meeting held May 4, 1881, adopted unanimously the following

RESOLUTION.

Whereas, Col. Carroll D. Wright, Chief of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor, in his report to Hon. Charles J. Noyes, Speaker of the House of Representatives, has most unjustly and injuriously treated the French Canadian population of the Eastern States: it is

Resolved, That we protest most energetically against each and every allegation, contained in the said report, having a tendency to injure in any way the good standing of the French Canadian nationality.

JEAN G. COTΙ, President.
H. Constantineau, Jun., Secretary.

A true copy — Attest: H. CONSTANTINEAU, JUN., Secretary.

We earnestly request that the above resolution be transmitted to the legislature for their early consideration.

A. J. G. C.
H. CONSTANTINEAU, JUN., Secretary.

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Resolutions protesting against Certain Portions of Carroll D. Wright's Annual Report of the Bureau of Statistics.

Whereas, The Chief of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor, Hon. Carroll D. Wright, in his report to the Hon. Charles J. Noyes, Speaker of the General Court of Massachusetts, declares that the presence of the French Canadians in the Eastern States is an objection and an obstacle to the system of ten hours of labor in manufacturing establishments; and

Whereas, Such an accusation should not be allowed to pass unrebuked as the calumny of a prejudiced and uninformed mind against so respectable a portion of population as the four hundred thousand Canadians in the Eastern States represent; and

Whereas, We recognize unanimously the wisdom of the ten-hour system,— be it

Resolved, That we, the French Canadians of Hudson, in public meeting assembled, protest earnestly against that portion of Carroll D. Wright's report which declares our presence, there or elsewhere in the State, to be an objection or obstacle to the introduction of that system; and

Whereas, For the past fifteen years, agents of the manufacturers of New England have been sent to Canada to solicit its inhabitants to come to the States, promising them good places and good wages; and

Whereas, It is by repeated invitations that this class of population has come to this section to live in this land of liberty; and

Whereas, They have been called by the Chief of the Bureau of Statistics "the Chinese of the East," — be it

Resolved, That we protest indignantly against the injustice of the comparison, and qualify it as injurious to our industrious, indefatigable, docile, moral, and religious race; and

Whereas, Though many of us are not fully versed in the English language, or acquainted with the habits and customs of the country, still we recognize the high wisdom of its institutions, — be it

Resolved, That we protest against that part of the report which says that we do not care for the institutions — civil, political or educational — of the country; and

Whereas, Since the French Canadians have come to this section, they have reached a population of four hundred thousand in New England; and

Whereas, A large number have become land and property holders, paying their share of the taxes; and

Whereas, For the most part, the young men propose to here make their homes, — be it

Resolved, That we protest against that portion of the report which says that "we are a horde of industrial invaders;" and

Whereas, Although a large number of French Canadians have been here but five or six years, yet they still seek to maintain their proportion of naturalized citizens of the United States, — be it

Resolved, That we protest with energy against the statement of the report which says, "they care little for voting, with all that it implies, nor rarely does one of them become naturalized; " and

Whereas, We recognize the necessity of sending our children to school, and have done so continually, — be it

Resolved, That we protest against that portion of the report which declares that "they will not send their children to school if they can help it, and that they deceive also about their schooling with brazen effrontery;" and

Whereas, The French Canadians of Hudson have established a national benevolent and literary society, which gives literary and dramatic representations, furnishing proper amusements; and

Whereas, In our population, the average found guilty of intoxication, or graver crimes, is quite small, — be it

Resolved, That we protest against that portion of the report which asserts that "drinking and smoking and lounging are the sum of their amusements."

Resolved, That, in drawing his conclusions henceforth, the honorable Chief of the Bureau pays more attention to that rule of logic which forbids drawing universal principles from particular cases, thus condemning the mass for the faults of some. Resolved, That these resolutions, signed by a committee of five citizens, including our pastor, be transmitted to our honorable Representative to the General Assembly, E. M. Stowe, with the request that he publicly present them to the honorable Speaker, Charles J. Noyes.

P. A. McKENNA, Pastor,
J. J. DeNOYER, M.D.,
P. O. DUPONT,
PETER SHARON,
J. A. COURTEMANCHE,
FRANK L. FRANCIS,
Committee on Resolutions
.

The legislature, in referring these vigorous resolutions to this office, did not indicate any action regarding them; and if the statements which were so strongly condemned had been made in any spirit of captiousness, or in malice, or through any prejudice against the French Canadians, we should have contented ourselves by simply printing the protests. The statements in the last report having been made in good faith, and as the results of the observations of, and statements made to, our agents, we thought it but fair to all parties that the French should have a full and free opportunity to present such testimony as they might have showing their progress in the United States; and consequently a hearing was announced for Oct. 25, 1881, to which all persons interested were invited. The circular of invitation, which was given the widest circulation, contained in brief the reasons for the hearing, and the following statement: —

"I am not aware that any other desire exists on the part of the officers of this Bureau than that to obtain the exact truth. Certainly no prejudice exists against the French, and in order that the statements of French Canadians residing in this State or in the States covered by the investigation may have the benefit of the same prominence as that given to the statements to which they object, they are invited to attend a hearing in the Green Room at the State House, Boston, on Tuesday, Oct. 25, 1881, at ten o'clock a.m.

"This hearing shall be conducted in a thoroughly impartial manner by the officers of this Bureau, and all parties desiring to be heard upon the matters in question shall have an opportunity. The results of the hearing will be printed in the Thirteenth Annual Report of the Bureau to be laid before the next legislature. It should be understood that facts only should be given at the hearing; that is, facts relating to the education, habits, etc., of the French Canadian residents in the States named."

In accordance with this invitation, some sixty representative French Canadian gentlemen attended, and offered their protests and their evidence which appear in the following full stenographic

Report of the Hearing.

Mr. Wright, Chief of the Bureau, presiding, opened the hearing as follows: —

Gentlemen, — The legislature of Massachusetts, by chap. 29, Resolves of 1880, directed this Bureau to make an investigation in the States of Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut, relative to "a uniform system of laws to regulate the hours of labor in the States mentioned, and to present the results of its investigations to the legislature in its next annual report."

The investigation was made, and the results reported in the Twelfth Annual Report of this Bureau.

Among the objections given by many manufacturers and operatives, in the States where no ten-hour system existed, was the presence of the French Canadians; and the reasons given by parties why the French were an obstacle to the extension of the system were presented in said report.

These reasons, as well as all other results of the investigation, were reported; and the officers of the Bureau would have been derelict in their duties, and would have disobeyed the positive commands of the legislature, had these reasons not been reported.

The moment the Bureau, either through fear of offending any party or race, or through desire to favor any party or race, suppresses facts or evidence given it in the legitimate course of an investigation, or introduces statements of its own invention, and reports such for facts, whatever usefulness it may have will be gone, and the officers so prostituting the privileges of the Bureau should meet the very severest condemnation the public can bestow.

The reasons given by parties why the presence of the French Canadians in factory towns is an obstacle to the extension of the ten-hour system have offended the French; and they have expressed their disapprobation of such reasons by resolutions, which have been presented to the legislature, and by the legislature referred to the Bureau of Statistics.

Many bodies of the French, in convention, have passed very severe strictures upon the statements of the report; and, what is to be regretted, have not confined themselves to denying the truth of the reasons reported, but have seen fit to accuse the officers of the Bureau, personally, of issuing calumnious statements. I do not know as I can blame the French for being exasperated; the only fault, however, I can plead guilty to in regard to the report in question, as it relates to the French, is that it was not stated fully enough, perhaps, that the evidence which offends did not relate to Massachusetts at all, and that it was not explicit enough in stating the localities to which the evidence applied. We were discussing the reasons against the extension of the ten-hour system; and such reasons could not apply to Massachusetts, because the ten-hour system existed here already.

The legislature has not indicated any way in which the resolutions referred to the Bureau should be treated; but I have thought it only fair and honorable to invite you to this hearing, that you may not only protest against the statements of the report, but that you may introduce such evidence as you may have relative to the progress of your race.

Please bear in mind that personally I have no pride of opinion in this matter, and shall not feel hurt if you succeed in proving every statement made to the Bureau relative to the French to be absolutely false. I hope you will confine your statements to facts, and be as brief as possible in your testimony, all material parts of which will be printed in the next annual report of the Bureau.

After the French present have been heard, or rather those who have come delegated to speak, an opportunity will be given to any who may wish, to be heard in the matter before us.

I hope we now understand each other, and that you have come here in the same spirit in which you have been invited — that of truth and fairness. I wish you to remember one thing, however, and that is that while this land is open to all, and a welcoming hand is extended to all without regard to nationality, the people of the United States will always look with disapprobation upon any attempt upon the part of settlers to be other than American citizens. Our laws protect the alien as well as. the citizen, and all the benefits of our institutions are as free to you as to the native born; but you cannot be loyal Americans and loyal French Canadians at the same time.

I am inclined to think that whatever prejudice there has has been in the public mind against the French Canadians, and I am aware there has been such, has arisen from the seeming disposition of the French to insist upon preserving a distinct national existence within the Republic. If the French can learn, even by the report they condemn, that to become citizens here in the fullest sense means their progress and elevation, the Bureau will have done them the greatest possible service.

Certainly it is in the hearts of the officers of the Bureau to perform such service by any legitimate means in their power. This sentiment has actuated them in announcing this hearing. Mr. H. A. Dubuque of Fall River will conduct the hearing for the French. I wish to say to you now, however, that I have not summoned a single witness here. I have not asked any one to come here in opposition to the views you may express, or in favor of the statements which were made to the agents of the Bureau by the manufacturers and operatives throughout the States which we canvassed.

Mr. Dubuque can carry on the hearing in his own way. I will only ask you to be as brief as possible in your statements.

Mr. Dubuque. Honored gentlemen of the Bureau of Statistics of Labor, — It devolves upon me to open this hearing on behalf of the French Canadians who have been called here to give their evidence relative to certain statements contained in the Twelfth Annual Report of this Bureau. Before, however, proceeding to present the evidence before you, gentlemen, I wish to impress upon your minds the abnormal attitude in which the French are placed before you. Accusations have been made against them in a report made by the Bureau appointed by State authority. These accusations are presumed to be true, and taken to be true, to a certain extent; and we are called upon here to refute them.

Of course, we understand, gentlemen, that this hearing is somewhat informal. We cannot proceed as we would in a court of justice. We must obtain the facts as best we may with the means at hand, and if certain parties are not obliged to come and testify we must rely upon the good will of those who are willing. We feel more keenly the sting of these accusations, for there they stand in black and white; there is material which will go to write the history either of the Republic, of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, or of the French Canadians in this State or in the country. That is opposed to the fundamental law, laid down in the Constitution, that no one shall be accused unless he has the right and the advantage of being confronted by his accuser. I do not say this, gentlemen of this Bureau, because I want to blame you. You are, as it were, a reflection of the evidence which has been presented to you. Your duty is that of a court of justice, or a master in chancery presenting his report according to the state of the facts as they have come to his knowledge, and then letting the court, or, in this instance, the legislature or public opinion, pass upon the report.

Gentlemen, I do not wish to say that you have not done your duty; but this Bureau, even with all the good will that it could have, with all the kind feelings towards the French people that it has had, has done us an injustice. You have felt it yourselves, gentlemen, because you have summoned us to come here to-day to present to you evidence to refute the facts which you have stated.

Now, if we are to consider this statement as an allegation in a civil cause, are we going to say that the allegations of the plaintiff or complainant are taken to be true, and the defendant called upon to prove that they are false?

Now, with these few remarks, gentlemen, we want to proceed in the best spirit possible. You have expressed the desire of getting at the truth in the matter relating to the French people. You have said further, Mr. Chief of this Bureau, that the statement contained in the report did not apply to the French people in Massachusetts. It is to be regretted, indeed, that we did not know of this fact, this very essential fact, till only a very few days before this hearing; because, as you know, Mr. Chief and gentlemen of this Bureau, the French Canadians in this State number one hundred thousand. As you know, the French are more numerous in Massachusetts than in any other State in the Union: therefore this report which applied to all the French of the Eastern, States— as we understood it — we in Massachusetts have felt the sting of it as well as it has been felt in other States.

I am willing to admit, Mr. Chief of this Bureau, that it was not intended by this Bureau to apply the statements to any but special cases outside of Massachusetts, and to special localities; but we read by the very words of this report that it treats of the question of the schools, that where compulsory education exists the French have "lied with brazen effrontery" about the age of their children. Now, of course you know, gentlemen of this Bureau, that in all the Eastern States, in all the New England States, you have not the same law regarding compulsory education that you have in Massachusetts; consequently, where the law exists and is enforced so strictly as it is here, we have considered that the words relating to the school laws applied to the Canadians of Massachusetts, and we have come here prepared to present facts from Massachusetts to show you that these statements are not founded upon truth.

We have come before you, also, gentlemen of this Bureau, with evidence concerning the social and moral condition of the French in New York, in New Hampshire, in Connecticut, in Maine, and in Massachusetts. We have come here with evidence concerning the French in various localities and various places in Massachusetts, where they are in large numbers and mostly engaged in working in the manufactories. We have come here of our own free will. Of course we are grateful to you who have given us an opportunity to refute publicly, before this Bureau, the statements which have been made against us; but it is to be regretted, I repeat again, that, when these statements were recorded against the French people by the officers of this Bureau, no one was asked, on the part of the French who were accused — condemned by the report — to come and refute the facts given against them. It is to be regretted gentlemen.

We do not wish to blame you; you have done your duty as you thought best, and we consider that you have endeavored to be as impartial as man can be when he is swayed by the opinions of others, whether the statements are made in a court of justice or before a legislative committee.

I may state to you, gentlemen of the Bureau, that I am not the only one who has been appointed to conduct this hearing. We have been appointed, I believe, five or six, representing different States, and I have been called upon to open the hearing with these few remarks; and now, if other gentlemen who are members of the committee to conduct the hearing wish to state any thing farther before we present the evidence to you, I would ask your kind favor to hear any suggestions which they might make. I would state to you, also, gentlemen, that there are gentlemen here, and especially a gentleman from Maine, who has very important statistics concerning the French Canadians. He is not very familiar with the English language, but he will express himself as best he can; for all of us, you know, cannot use an acquired language as well as we can our own. He and the other gentlemen will have to ask your indulgence; and, if he cannot express himself in any way which you can understand, he will ask to be heard through an interpreter. But I can assure you that he will make all the efforts in his power in order to be understood by you in the official language of the hearing.

Now, gentlemen of the Bureau, the first gentleman who will give you evidence will be Mr. F. Gagnon, the editor of "Le Travailleur," a French paper published in Worcester, Mass. I believe it is the oldest French Canadian paper published in the Eastern States. Mr. Gagnon has sent circulars to various cities and towns, and obtained reports, and he has had a great experience, probably a larger experience than any of the rest of us, in this matter. He has been with the French people, has founded religious, educational, and literary societies among them; and he will give you the reports he has prepared from more than thirty cities and towns.

Mr. Gagnon represents a delegation from Worcester consisting, besides himself, of Rev. J[ean] B[aptiste] Primeau, pastor of the church of Notre Dame des Canadiens [and here]; and Mr. Charles Lalime, immigration agent of the Canadian Government.

Mr. Ferd[inand]. Gagnon then said: Mr. Carroll D. Wright, Chief of the Bureau of Labor Statistics for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, in his Twelfth Annual Report has published the evidence furnished the Bureau that the presence of the French Canadians is an obstacle to the adoption of the ten-hour system of labor in certain States; and that the French Canadians are a horde of industrial invaders caring nothing for the institutions of this country, neglecting to become citizens, living in a beggarly way, trying to evade the provisions of the school laws, being a sordid and low people, and fit only to work under any kind of rulers and for any scale of prices. It is the first time that such slanders of a national element find a place in an official document. Mr. Wright says that he was officially obliged to include in the document all that was reported to him. While, however, we admit this obligation, we regret the expressions which have been used to illustrate the reports of his informants. We acknowledge that in order to indicate his sense of fair play and justice he has called this meeting for a hearing.

We come to refute opinions given ex parte, and to reform the verdict based on them. This situation is quite abnormal; but we rely upon the justice of our cause, and the impartiality of the tribune before which we present our evidence; and we say that the informants of the Bureau have taken, in every town or city from whence they reported, the exceptional for the general.

Moreover we say that malice, prejudice, and very probably individual interest, were the chief denunciators of our countrymen. And, moreover, we say that considering the circumstances under which the Canadians emigrate to this country; speaking, as they do, a language different from the idiom spoken in the United States; they can show a record within the last ten years that no other national element can exhibit.

Moreover, we say that, comparatively, considering their number, the French Canadians do more for the general prosperity of the Eastern States than any other national element. Moreover, we say that the French Canadian element ought to be respected as others, for they have rendered services in every manner to the United States; establishing cities, counties, States; fighting for the stars and stripes; pacifying Indian tribes; guiding explorers and United States armies; and we say this without claiming, in this case, the honor to be the sons of France, the generous friend of the United States, whose alliance was cemented by the blood of Lafayette at Brandywine, and by the surrender of Cornwallis to Washington and Rochambeau at Yorktown.

It may happen that ignorant or malicious gossips denounce, in their villages, the French Canadians, because the farmers who come to this country do not wear modern garments, and have not the "nobby" appearance of their traducers; but ignorance ought not to prevail.

Denouncing a whole national element because the families in a village do not send their children to school, wear poor clothing, eat poor victuals, is the act of a prejudiced man.

The faults of ten are not the faults of a nation of nearly two millions of individuals.

There was premeditated malice in the reports of the informants to this Bureau.

Who gave the key note to these denunciations? The manufacturers themselves, who send agents to Canada to recruit factory help.

I have a letter from an agent of the Boston and Albany Railroad at Worcester, who says he is ready to testify that since two years, no less than one hundred superintendents or agents of mills have applied to him for French help, one mill asking for as many as fifty families at a time. And Mr. E. I. L'Herault, justice of the peace at Fall River, could testify in the same manner. Manufacturers cannot say that the French Canadians have been an obstacle to the system of ten hours of labor.

Never, at any place, have Canadian help asked an increase in the hours of labor, and never, at any place, have they been opposed, as a body, to the ten-hour law.

The Canadians are peaceful, law-abiding citizens; and they accept the wages fixed by the liberality, or sometimes the cupidity and avarice, of the manufacturers.

Unable to speak the English language when they arrive in this country, burdened with a family, poor as the generality of immigrants are, the French Canadians have but to go to the textile factories, and there accept what is offered to them.

After a few months, and the children have learned a few words of English, being not satisfied with the wages, they ask for more, and, if refused, they move to another village where they expect to get more. This perpetual moving displeases some manufacturers; but it shows that our countrymen do not try to reduce the scale of wages, but that, on the contrary, they put themselves to trouble and expense to get better wages.

Canadians do not go back to their country in a large number, as is believed by many manufacturers. Leaving their relatives in Canada, being at a short distance they go often to visit their friends, but come back to the States to their usual occupations.

We propose to overthrow specifically, by logical reasoning and statistics, all the misrepresentations contained in the reports transmitted to the Bureau.

We have affirmed that the French Canadians have never asked for an increase, nor have they opposed a reduction of the hours of labor. Having many children, the Canadian emigrant living in factory towns cares for his family. He and his children do not generally take side with strikers when strikes occur, and for this reason the prejudices go against the law-abiding Canadian. Is it not probable that many of the informants of the Bureau were men who had already been engaged in strikes, and that Canadians did not follow them? And hence the malice.

During the last ten years the Eastern States have received the greatest bulk of the Canadian immigration, and already we count over thirty churches built by them, many schools, and a great many are real estate owners.

We have the statistics of thirty-two cities and villages where Canadians are to be found in great numbers. They are as follows: —

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What do we learn from these statistics?

These thirty-two different places have a population of 417,877, and of this number 88,653 are Canadians — more than one-fifth of the whole.

These 88,653 Canadians represent about 10,000 families, and of these we find that 2,516 have a home and own a house in the United States. More than twenty-five hundred! Is there a better signification that the Canadians are not wandering Jews, but that, on the contrary, they settle here to make a home?

Mark, gentlemen, that in certain towns the manufacturing companies oblige their employιs to dwell in the tenements of the company; that in many towns these companies do not sell land to individuals, and, consequently, in such places Canadians cannot become real estate owners. We shall compare two groups, for example: —

Grosvenordale, Conn., has (including Mechanicsville) a population of 2,400 Canadians, and 12 real estate owners. At Gardner, Mass., where the Canadian population is only 766, we have 78 real estate owners.

Spencer, Mass., has 140 Canadian real estate owners, the Canadian population being 3,450. This number of Canadian real estate owners is astonishing when it is an acknowledged fact that the mass of these emigrants have been in the Eastern States during fifteen years only. It has been said in the report that the Canadians did not send their children to school, and that they try to evade the tenure of the law, This is given as a generality in the report. Now let us examine our statistics. We find that thirty-two towns or cities send 56,888 children to the schools, and of this number 13,406, or 23+ per cent, are Canadian children. And we also find that these Canadians, called "the Chinese of the East," have religion enough, patriotism enough, to have forty French and English Catholic schools in these thirty-two cities and towns.

We acknowledge that some of the new comers, too poor, and unable to speak English, — and the wages being low, — are obliged to send children to the mills against the law of humanity, and, in Massachusetts, against the State law. But who is the most guilty? Is it not the manufacturer who gives employment to young children of eight of nine years of age for merely nominal salary? These children, belonging to poor families, are submitted to a daily task of nine or ten hours, for thirty cents a day. Why does not the manufacturer cut the evil at its root, and refuse employment to these poor little ones, pay a little more to the adult members of these families, and give the children a chance to have an education? But no! These manufacturers complain of the ignorance of the Canadian children, and they try to get them at their mills for a few cents a day. Yet, notwithstanding the opportunity offered by the cupidity of the manufacturer, few parents only evade the school law.

The statistics above given demonstrate that Canadians send their children to school; for more than twenty-two per cent of the school children of thirty-two cities and towns are Canadians.

The report says that Canadians do not care to vote, — another error. The informants had forgotten, probably, that the law requires a residence of five years in this country for an alien to become a citizen. In Massachusetts the law requires that a man to be a voter shall read the Constitution in the English language. In Rhode Island the law requires that a foreigner shall be a real estate owner to vote. In New Hampshire the Constitution says that no Catholic shall be elected to office. With such liberality — which is a real barrier to universal suffrage — it is yet surprising to see so many Canadians who are citizens of the United States.

In these thirty-two cities and towns. 4,480 Canadians are American citizens, and more than 58 of them hold public office. One is a member of the legislature of Connecticut, one is a town treasurer, many are aldermen, councilmen, selectmen, members of the school committee, etc. Many have declared already their intention to become citizens. Our national conventions, our newspapers, our local organizations, urge on the question of citizenship with very satisfactory results. Let the young generation, which speaks the English language, grow a few years more, and politicians will have to count with us.

The report says that Canadians live in a beggarly way. Very few of them do; and it is acknowledged by our merchants, by our pastors, that Canadians spend everything they earn for the food and clothing of their families. If it was not so, we should not see so many Canadians engaged in different trades.

In the thirty-two cities and towns above mentioned, we find 549 merchants and professional men and 2,014 tradesmen and clerks. These statistics are abundant evidence that the trade of the French Canadians is important.

In fact, they have not inherited the economy and frugality of their ancestors. They are inclined to extravagance, and they scorn with indignation the expressions used in the report to describe falsely their way of living. Because they like to trade where the French language is spoken, some merchants who do not employ French help may believe that Canadians live in a beggarly way, not buying much at their store. It is a great mistake, and the many Canadian dealers and clerks, and the American merchants in towns where no French Canadians are engaged in trade, could testify to the contrary.

We believe we have shown, in the light of logical truth, the error of the report. As we have said before, informants have everywhere taken the exceptional for the generality; and for this reason the Canadians have protested publicly, as they now protest at this hearing, against the authenticity of the evidence on which the report was based. And they ask that the sense of justice of Mr. Wright be equal to the circumstances, that this report be acknowledged by him and the Bureau as a slander, and that in his next report he shall recognize that he has been deceived by informants prejudiced against the Canadian element.

Canadians have been great factors in the prosperity of manufacturing interests. Steady workers and skilful, the manufacturers have benefited by their condition of poverty to reduce wages, and compete favorably with the industries of the Old World.

Americans who study but one history — their own —do not know enough of the services rendered to their country by Canadians. In fact, nearly all the large cities of the Western States have been established by Canadians. Consult the historical societies of Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, and you will learn to respect and admire the French Canadian element.

From Langlade, the father of Wisconsin; Juneau, the founder of Milwaukee; Joseph Robidon, the founder of St. Joe Mission; Vital Guerin, the founder of St. Paul, Minn.; Menard, first lieutenant governor of Illinois; to Jean Louis Lιgarι, the trader, who has persuaded Sitting Bull to surrender to the United States authorities, — the list is long of the Canadians who have rendered famous the name of our national element.

In the Eastern States we are from yesterday, and already we form quite an important element of the population. And, if we have not yet had the opportunity of illustrating our nationality by great historical deeds, we try in our daily vocation of duty to obtain the respect and consideration of our fellow-citizens by our loyalty to State constitutions and municipal laws, and by our good behavior.

All we want is the freedom guaranteed to all citizens, and we want protection against such slanders as the informants of the Bureau have laid upon us.

Public spirited citizens whose honor sustains no stain, we have protested, and do here solemnly protest, against the expressions and sentiments of the informants of the Bureau. In the name of justice and respect of decency we ask that the report be corrected so that it shall place our national element in the true light in which we stand, — loyal and honorable citizens.

Mr. Dubuque. Now, gentlemen, before we proceed further, I would like to make a remark in regard to the ten-hour law in Massachusetts. The people are under an impression that this ten-hour law applies to everybody in Massachusetts. The first law relating to ten hours of labor in Massachusetts was passed in 1842, chap. 60, sects. 3 and 4. That law provided that no child under ten years of age should be employed more than ten hours per day, and the penalty was $50 fine for a violation of the law. That law has been incorporated in the General Statutes, chap. 42, sect. 3, published in 1860. Later, in 1867, by statute of 1867, 285, sects. 1, 2, 8, and 4, it was provided that no child under fifteen years of age should be employed more than sixty hours per week. That is the progress of the ten-hour law in this State. Under the statute of 1842 no child under ten years shall be employed more than ten hours a day, and thence to 1867, when the law provides that no child under fifteen shall be employed more than sixty hours per week. Then influence brought to bear on the legislature caused the so-called ten-hour law to be passed in 1874. It provides that "no child under eighteen years of age, and no woman over that age, shall be employed in the manufactures more than ten hours per day." It does not say that no man shall be employed. It does not apply to men. The manufacturer has no right to employ a child under eighteen years or a woman of any age more than sixty hours per week, having the right to divide the hours of labor so that they will not amount to more than sixty hours per week.

Now, in 1876 there came a continuation of that same progress; and the legislature of 1876 by chap. 52, sects. 1, 2, 3, and 4, enacted, "no child under ten years shall be employed at all in the manufactories, and no "child under fourteen years shall be employed unless he attend school twenty weeks in a year."

Then in 1878, by chap. 171, sect. 1, the legislature authorized the school committees to approve private schools, the teaching as well in private schools as in public schools — and then, in 1879, struck the word "wilful" out of the ten-hour law, so that it might be more effectually enforced.

So we are to understand that the law applies to children under eighteen, and also to women. It does not apply to men. It is not a law which forbids the manufacturers from employing men more than ten hours a day. Of course it was one way of getting at the object in view, but still we want to understand the law as it is. Now, if Mr. Gagnon will be kind enough to give us his statistics.

Mr. Gagnon. The statistics have been given in bulk in my remarks. I have them here, and they can be consulted by the Bureau; the questions are here, and the answers.

Mr. Dubuque. Will you please state to the Bureau how you have proceeded in order to get these reports, so we may get at the way in which you have collected the statistics?

Mr. Gagnon. These blanks were addressed to some prominent citizen, and the response came from him.

Q. You have printed how many circulars, and sent to the various towns?

A. I have thirty-two answers here.

Q. You have sent a great number?

A. I have sent forty-four. That is all.

Q. And these circulars have been printed by you?

A. By me.

Q. At your office in Worcester, and sent to the most prominent French citizens that you knew in the various towns?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And you have received the answers which you have given?

A. Yes, sir; they are signed.

Mr. Dubuque. We want to state further that we have evidence to offer on this point; it is stated that we are opposed to the ten-hour law.

Mr. Wright. No; I think there is no such statement.

Mr. Dubuque. "The third objection to the ten hours, is the presence of the Canadian French."

Mr. Wright. I do, not think it is stated anywhere that the French Canadians have opposed the law.

Mr. Dubuque. No; but that their presence is opposed to the ten-hour law. Now, we want to state what the action of the Canadians has been in Massachusetts, and why they have not entered into that movement.

Mr. Wright. To set you right, so that there shall be no misunderstanding, let me say that, as I understood the testimony, the presence of the French Canadians was urged as an objection to the ten-hour law on account of their migratory customs and habits which it has alleged they had; not on account of any movement of their own, but that manufacturers objected to taking up any reformatory movements for the elevation of a people that were not going to stay among them.

Mr. Dubuque. I want to state this, which will bear upon the question, as you will see in a moment, that what brought about the ten-hour law in 1874 — I have lived in Fall River for ten years, and know something about these things — what brought about this ten-hour law in 1874 was started by a great movement in Fall River, first by a strike, — the argument being by intimidation, violation of law, rows, public demonstrations, which were converting the whole city into a state of rebellion. Now we want to introduce evidence to show that the Canadian French, wherever a strike has taken place, wherever any of these public demonstrations against law and order in any place have been made, have never taken part in the movement, and have staid at home like good law-abiding citizens; in a measure that lies created a prejudice against them, and made other nationalities believe that they were opposed to a ten-hour law, while, on the contrary, they were staying at home like good law-abiding citizens, not wanting to be mixed up in any breach of the peace.

Mr. Wright. You will introduce testimony, if I understand you, to show that the French Canadians, on account of their non-participation in strikes, have incurred the enmity of agitators?

Mr. Dubuque. Yes, sir.

Mr. Wright. What are known as " labor reformers"?

Mr. Dubuque. Yes, sir.

Mr. Wright. Do you think any testimony from them would be particularly unfriendly to the French?

Mr. Dubuque. Yes, sir, by reason of their abstaining from taking part in any of these movements in which were mixed up these violations of law. The French people have kept away, have been advised by their ministers, by their leaders, to keep away, to keep within the law, and to respect the laws of the Commonwealth. That has been the reason why they have not entered into this movement; and it has given the opinion that they were opposed to it, or that their presence was an objection to it.

Mr. Wright. I want to ask Mr. Gagnon if it has been the policy of the French Canadians in the United States or of the leaders, those whom you might call the principal men, to advocate the doctrine of repatriation?

Mr. Gagnon. Yes, sir; I have been an agent, myself.

Q. That has been the policy?

A. That has been the policy, to take out from this country families which, it was evident, would not succeed in the mills.

Q. Is that the policy now?

A. Every thing is stopped. The government of the Province of Quebec have no more subsidy to repatriate with, so, for two years, nothing has been done; and it is the reason it partially failed.

Q. They are now, after that failure, feeling more permanent, and even some of those are returning who had repatriated?

A. Well, some are returning, yet but few repatriated; and during the repatriation movement the Canadians were just as anxious to stay as since: we could not repatriate them in large numbers, I mean.

Mr. Dubuque. For the information of this Bureau, it would be well to state, also, that the condition of the French now is different from what it was five, or six, or ten, years ago. The French to-day have become more familiar with the institutions, and more familiar with the language and the ways of living, of the American people, than they were five or ten years ago when they first came. For instance, in Fall River we had, about ten years ago, some five hundred French citizens: to-day we have eleven thousand in a population of forty-nine thousand.

Mr. Wright. Mr. Gagnon, are there places either in New York or Connecticut, for instance, — because it was from those States that the testimony came to us principally, — are there places in those two States where the statements made to the Bureau would be applicable to any great extent, or even applicable during the last ten years?

Mr. Gagnon. It may be, sir, in those States, because the people have migrated more from these factory places on account of the failure of the Spragues. They were obliged to go to other places on account of the failure of these mills, and they lost considerable money in Baltic on account of that failure; they had money deposited in the banks, and were losers.

Q. Is it your idea that the financial depressions following the year 1878 had an influence in bringing about the conditions alleged in the report?

A. Yes, sir, and also that in Connecticut villages the manufacturer is the king of the place, and they cannot own land as in Massachusetts, and in Maine, and in New York, without being citizens.

Q. You mean, they cannot be citizens without being real estate owners?

A. I mean, that, should their death occur, if they were not citizens the State can claim their real estate.

Rev. Father Millet of Nashua. The Canadian Government, — and I look upon this point as important, as bearing upon the question, — the Canadian Government, not only  here, but in the different countries of Europe, — I have seen them myself, in England, in Belgium, and in France, establish agencies, with well-paid officials, endeavoring to draw towards Canada a current of immigration; and here, in the States as well as in Europe, these agencies were established. What kind of success they were in Europe, it is not the question; but in the States it is well to note down that it was a total failure. That is, not perfectly total, but by an immense majority it was a failure, so much so that the government has ceased to subsidize these agencies.

Mr. Wright. If I understand you, the attempt was made by the Canadian Government to repatriate French Canadians from the United States?

Father Millet. Yes, sir; not only that, but great inducements were offered if they would return; and some of them did return, but of those who did go a certain proportion returned to the States again, and in a majority of places the thing was a total failure, so much so, that the subsidy which was given has been withdrawn.

Q. So that the work of repatriation has ceased?

A. It is the desire of the government that they should return, but it has ceased to pay; though it encourages immigration to all parts of Canada, it has ceased to subsidize these agencies.

Q. Now, let me ask you, Father Millet, one other question, because you seem to be the best man to ask it of, has it been the policy of the Church to which the French Canadians mostly belong in Canada, to urge repatriation now or at any time within the past ten years?

A. The Church in Canada, as represented by its bishops and priests, has done all in its power to stop immigration; but that was at the first.

Q. How does the establishment of French Catholic churches in America affect the permanency of the French people here?

A. It brings on what in Canada was feared, because in Canada they said this was a great evil for the country, the constant flowing out of the country of the population; they desired the people to remain there, and, when we priests were sent into the States to attend to their spiritual wants, it was only then that they saw what the result of their action was, and that they could not hold the French among them.

Q. Now, am I right in this opinion, that during the last five years the condition of the French Canadians, with reference to their policy of repatriation and their desire to better themselves, has been in a transition state? that is, that it has been a crucial period with the French Canadians, —is that true?

A. I should consider that for the moment the question of repatriation is not given up, but partially so.

Q. I do not mean that particularly; but, have the French been in a transition state, during the past five years, as the result of the establishment and failure of the repatriation system and the gradual establishment of churches here?

A. I should consider that especially for the last five years this has been partially so. I look upon it now as a permanent population.

Q. And that that permanency has just begun to take positive form?

Q. You mean, take it from ten years back?

Mr. Gagnon. From the establishment of our churches?

Q. (By Mr. Wright.) From the establishment of the French Canadian churches in America, — the permanency of the French population began?

Father Millet. The permanency of the French population was secured.

Mr. Dubuque. While we are on that point we might well call Mr. Lalime of Worcester, who has been an agent of the government.

Mr. Lalime. I wish to tell you what I know personally about this immigration matter. I have been appointed agent by the Federal Government of Canada in 1875, and I am still the Federal Government's agent for the New England States, — that is, what you might call the repatriation agent. I wish to state this, that, as stated a few minutes ago by the Rev. Father Millet, this repatriation is almost a failure, if it is not a total failure. Why? Because we have work in the New England States, because everybody finds occupation, and our Canadians will not go West, or a very few of them. For the last four years, gentlemen, for the last three years, we certainly have not sent from New England, more than, I should say, thirty families, — I mean, sent to Canada or any one of the provinces of Canada, or to Manitoba. Quite a number from the other side have gone to settle in Minnesota and Dakota. And I wish to state, inasmuch as I understood that Mr. Wright wanted to find out if our clergy were in favor of immigration or repatriation to Canada, — I wish to say this, that but very few of our clergymen in the New England States have favored that movement.

Mr. Wright. My point was this, if you will allow me to interrupt you a moment: whether the French clergy in New England or America had not acknowledged public influence here and in Canada in this matter of repatriation?

Mr. Lalime. Yes, sir, that is just what I want to say, and that I can prove. We have but very few clergymen in New England who have favored the repatriation movement. Far from it: they have always done what they could to have our people settle permanently here, and get naturalized and become citizens. That we can prove, any of us can prove, in every parish. So that repatriation is almost a dead letter to-day.

Mr. Dubuque. I will call upon Father Bedard of Fall River, if he will be kind enough to give us some statements on the question of immigration. He is a member of the clergy, and has the charge of a parish in Fall River; and I will ask him to state whether or not, in his opinion, the founding of parishes for the French Canadians in the States has not tended to make the Canadians settle more permanently in the States?

Rev. Father P[ierre]. J[ean]. B[aptiste]. Bedard. On that matter I can say that for my own part, and knowing the action of my friends of the clergy, we did respect that desire in Canada; but at the same time we did not fight against the people wishing to stay in the States. More than that, the French clergymen in the United States, as can be proved by acts and resolutions, did favor the title "citizen" and naturalization. It is quite natural for the clergy in Canada to desire the people living in Canada to stay there; but I do believe the American clergymen will be the first to raise their voice in favor of the permanent settlement of American citizens in the United States. But we, becoming citizens in the United States or not becoming citizens, we do respect the desire of the American population, and we do favor it, as is proved by our conventions not only in the State of Massachusetts but in all the conventions in the other States. So I believe, Mr. Wright, you will have a good opinion of the influence of the clergy on the people in that matter, and I believe everybody will be inclined to give credit to the clergy on that question.

Mr. Dubuque. I would ask you, Father Bedard, how many were real estate owners in the city of Fall River, where you founded a parish, before you came there, in that particular portion included in your parish?

Father Bedard. Very few, very few.

Q. Can you state about how many, to the best of your knowledge, there are now in your parish?

A. I did give the answer in writing to Mr. Gagnon: we have now about one hundred.

Mr. Wright. Out of a parish of how many members?

Father Bedard. In my parish about a hundred French Canadians own property, real estate; and I encourage this, myself, any time I can do it. And more than that, one or more bishops, coming from Canada (to Woonsocket, R.I.) lately, did say the same to the people living here, who intend to live here, to have property, to encourage the progress of this country, and so forth.

Q. You do not hesitate to assert, then, fully, that the influence of the French Church in America to-day is in favor of permanency, and against the policy of repatriation?

A. Here in the United States?

Q. Here in the United States.

A. Yes, sir, I do believe so.

Q. While, in the past, the influence of the French Catholic Church of Canada has been in favor of repatriation?

A. Yes, sir.

Mr. Gagnon. On that question of repatriation, —it was movement begun in 1875. A vote of the legislature of Quebec was passed granting a subsidy of sixty thousand dollars to promote this movement of immigration. And this money was not only intended for the Canadians in the States; it was intended for the immigrants from Europe, and for the families of the farmers of the Province of Quebec who wished to make new homes on new lands. After that year a subsidy of ten thousand dollars was granted by the legislature, and it stopped there. We sent, — I was the agent of the government at that time, — we sent about six hundred families to Canada, and about three hundred, only, staid there. The other three hundred did not settle, but came back to this country, or, if they did not come to this country, did not settle on the land given for the purpose by the government. The grant was this: the government of Quebec gave one hundred acres acres of land for the sum of sixty dollars, and built a log house, and cleared about four acres of the land. This, with the price of the land, amounted to two hundred dollars. The settler had to pay twelve dollars during five years with interest, and the remaining one hundred and forty dollars in ten years without interest. That is all that was done for the purpose of repatriation. Three years after, I myself sent my letter of declination, my resignation, to the government of Quebec, because I saw it was not necessary to maintain an agent here for nothing, as no money had been appropriated since three years for that purpose. Of course it is just that the Province of Quebec wishes to have as many of her children as she can have. She wants them to return, if possible; but there has been no other urging but this action partially devoted to the Canadians in the United States to repatriate them. Certainly, gentlemen, there are families here who cannot succeed in the mills, who cannot make a home, make a future for themselves and their children  and we, knowing that, try to take out those families, and settle them in Canada, or in the Western States, on land to cultivate. It is not so much repatriation to the Province of Quebec we want, as to draw those families from the mills, and settle them on land. They were farmers before coming here, and we think that, trying again under more favorable circumstances, they would make a better future for their families.

Mr. Dubuque. Now, gentlemen of this Bureau, I only want to state another thing on this question of immigration, and then we will proceed to some other matter. The most overwhelming fact that we can bring to bear on this question is, that for the last ten years, in every place where the French have settled, it is a known fact that they have doubled, if not trebled, in population. Now, if they were coming here and earning money; and going back to Canada, how could it be possible that the population would double and treble in such a short time? It must be that there is a new influx from Canada right along, and that those who are here stay here continuously. Now, we are prepared to show by various witnesses that, it is the minority, the very small number, that go back. Some will go back, will be dissatisfied; a great many of them, as Mr. Lalime has said, go to Montana, Dakota, Kansas, and the Western States; and others go to Canada, where they think they can do better. Now, we have a gentleman here from Marlborough, Mr. Aldrich, who has been kind enough to come here and give testimony in relation to this matter. There is a delegation, I should say, from Marlborough, and I will call upon Mr. Aldrich first.

Hon. S. N. Aldrich said: I was requested this morning, in behalf of some of my Canadian friends in Marlborough, to come up here and say a word. I can only say that, so far as the French Canadians of Marlborough are concerned, they are a quiet, peaceful, industrious, and temperate class among us. If you should go to Marlborough with me, you would see, in the place where they live, what is called "French Hill," and other parts of the town, some of the best residences in the town occupied, by French. They have a splendid church; there are many merchants among them, dry goods merchants, provision dealers, and men engaged in all sorts of business. It is a fact, as will appear from the papers that will be presented to you, the statistics, that the French of Marlborough are a quiet, temperate people, industrious, and as good as any of our citizens. We have some two thousand of them there, and all of them are at work, enjoying themselves, building homes, and, in fact, about all of them have homes, — and none of them have poor homes; they are all good houses. If a stranger went through our town to-day, and saw the homes of the workmen, he would come back and ask where our poor people are. They are all doing well, and enjoying themselves. I don't know as I can add any thing more to the statistics which will be presented to you from the clergymen and traders and others in regard to them.

Mr. Dubuque. You are an ex-senator of the State, I believe.

Mr. Aldrich. I was a senator three years ago.

Q. Now, Mr. Aldrich, how long has that condition of the French people, as you have stated, existed in Marlborough, — about when did they first come there to settle, to your best recollection?

A. Well, sir, I went to Marlborough some seventeen years ago. At that time there were a very few French Canadians there, and from that time up to the present they have been continuously coming, so that to-day our Canadian population is about one-fifth, I think, of the whole.

Q. Now, what is their desire or inclination to take part in any political movements, or getting naturalized, or any thing like that? Do they take part in public affairs?

A. They have taken part. We have made them selectmen; we have put them on the school committee, and we have recognized them as good citizens of Marlborough.

Q. How have they proved as citizens of Marlborough, what is their record, — those who have been elected to public office, whether as school committee men or as selectmen, — what is their record?

A. Perfectly good, sir. They have discharged their duties in any office as well as any of us, sir. I believe one of the gentlemen who was elected on the Board of Selectmen declined to serve, or he could have been elected again.

Q. Now, what is their condition as regards education?

A. Well, sir, we think they are educated too much in our town, for the benefit of the town financially, — they have to have too many schoolhouses. They fill up our schoolhouses, sir. Our low schools have been sixty or seventy or even one hundred in number, so that to-day the town of Marlborough is expending forty thousand dollars for schoolhouses on account of this population. I don't know as they increase faster than we Yankees do, but I think they must.

Q. Whether you have observed the French people outside of Marlborough, or outside of the State of Massachusetts?

A. My experience has not been very great in that direction. I only know them practically in Marlborough.

Mr. Wright. The French Canadians of Marlborough, if I am properly informed, are employed in the shoe manufactories?

Mr. Aldrich. Wholly in the shoe manufactories.

Q. Are you connected with the school committee?

A. I am not now connected with it; I have been connected with it for a long time.

Hon. Charles Q. Tirrell then said; Mr. Chairman, I have the honor of representing, in the State Senate, the district of which Marlborough forms a part, at the present time; and, as of necessity and in the interest of my constituents, I have taken considerable interest in this question, in its examination and its presentation; I have been requested by the French people, although I do not desire to obtrude myself, to present some facts- at this hearing in reference to the various points which are to be considered.

Now, in the first place, I desire to present, Mr. Chairman, some testimony in regard to the matter of schools, upon which you asked the Hon. Mr. Aldrich a few questions. I have here a few letters relative to the public schools, and I think that they demonstrate, if the testimony of the school committee of the town of Marlborough, if the testimony of the business men of the town of Marlborough, if the testimony of the school teachers of the town of Marlborough, is of any value or force, that a better class of children the teachers do not desire, nor the school committee themselves.

Now, in regard to the criminal statistics of the town of Marlborough. It has been stated by Mr. Aldrich that the French population of the town of Marlborough is about two thousand, or one-fifth of our entire population. Now, let us see how many cases have been brought before the trial justice of that town for the violation of the laws of the Commonwealth. The number of criminal cases brought before him from Oct. 1, 1880, to Oct. 1, 1881, was 383; the number, of French nationality, 43, — that is, one-fifth of the population, and only one-tenth of the criminality, is French.

Now, we will see how it is about their being a burden upon the community, a curse to any town or village where they may happen to be located, so far as the town being compelled to assist them is concerned. From the report of the overseers of the poor it appears that the total amount paid out by the town for the assistance of the poor, —as I understand it, in 1880-81, although the year is not stated here,— was $3,580.42; paid to people of French nationality, $496,81.

The real estate and personal property of the town of Marlborough is about as follows: total $3,720,166, and the French people possess $138,970. Poll-tax payers, 2,626; French, 363. The French constitute one-fifth of the population; they receive fourteen per cent of the aid which is given to the poor. They have four per cent of the wealth, of the town.

We have a perfect mass of testimony here from the business men of the town of Marlborough that we propose to submit. It would take up too much valuable time to read this testimony here; but the committee desire me to leave these letters from the manufacturers of Marlborough, from the grocers, from the tailors, from the men in every department of the industries of life, which all go to show by an overwhelming and an irrefutable accumulation of evidence that the French people of the town of Marlborough are as desirable a class as any that exists within its borders.

Mr. Tirrell filed resolutions passed by the French Canadians of Marlborough, June 18, 1881, similar to those already printed from Lowell and Hudson. These resolutions were signed by Rev. J. Z. Dumontier, Dr. J. A. Trembley, Onesime Levasseur, Jonas Gregoire, Charles Favreau, Louis B. Talbot, Leon Burgess, committee on resolutions.

Mr. Tirrell also submitted letters (referred to in his remarks) from prominent parties in Marlborough, among others the following: —

 

Marlborough, October, 1881.

Hon. Carroll D. Wright.

Dear Sir, — Having read what you have written in the Report of the Statistics of Labor concerning the Canadian French in the State, I have been requested to give my opinion of them as they are in Marlborough. We have here in town a Canadian French population, I should judge today, of a thousand or more, — about a hundred and seventy-five legal voters, and some seventy-five real estate owners. Having been in trade in town from twenty to twenty-five years, and having had a large share of their trade, I have had a good opportunity to judge of their habits, etc. I cannot say what class of Canadian French there may be in other places; but your article does not do them justice here.

As a class, in Marlborough, they compare favorably with any other. Of course there are individual exceptions. During our civil war there might not have been many in town at that time naturalized; but a number enlisted in the service, though we had a much smaller French population than at present. But since that time, as the young men have grown up, they stay with us, buy real estate, become citizens, and are Industrious. Many of the families that came here twenty years ago are here to-day, and take an interest in our affairs.

Having had an experience with the children as a member of the school committee, I have not found any more truants from that nationality than any other. I can recollect many of the brightest and most interesting of the scholars were French. Many of the French children work in our shoe factories; but in my experience I have never found that the parents wish to evade the laws about sending their children to school. They hare seemed to me to desire to have the children at school, as a rule. Poverty in some cases has brought them so that the help of their children was needed; yet, when the heads of families were able to educate their children, as a rule, they wished to have their children go to school.

So far as their living in a beggarly way, it is not true of the Canadians in this town. As a class they live well, and, as the facts will prove, save, and invest in real estate. The French like amusement, yet I do not think they carry it to excess any more than other nationalities. They seem to enjoy life, yet, after all, as it is here, many of them become good citizens, and reflect credit on themselves and the town.

Yours very truly,

(Signed) E. L. BIGELOW.

 

Marlborough, MASS., Oct. 17, 1881.

To whom, it may concern:

This is to certify that in my acquaintance with the French Canadian people of this town, I find them, as a class, honest, industrious, and taking an active part in the welfare of the town. Many of them naturalized, realizing what it is to vote, demand their rights with as much promptness as any other class of people. Also many of them own real estate, which is strong evidence that they have come amongst us to remain and make homes for themselves and children.

Respectfully submitted.

(Signed) JAMES T. MURPHY, One of the Selectmen of Marlborough.

 

Marlborough, Mass., Oct. 24, 1881.

This is to certify that, as merchants of this place with many years' experience, we hold the trade of the French people of this town and vicinity in such esteem that we encourage our salesmen to learn French so as to increase our trade with the older folks of this nationality who may not speak English readily.

The French residents of this town and their descendants furnish a large percentage of our customers. They are good judges of values, appreciative of new styles and novelties, and, in proportion to their numbers, are good buyers of all classes of dry goods. To lose their patronage would be a calamity.

(Signed) HOWE & STETSON.

 

Marlborough, Oct. 18, 1881.

During the past ten years we have counted the French residents of Marlborough and vicinity as amongst our best customers, and find them, as a rule, very particular as to style and quality, and willing to pay good prices if they find what they want.

(Signed) D. W. COSGROVE.

 

Marlborough, Mass., Oct. 21, 1881.

To whom it may concern:

This is to certify that I, Charles Mowry, police officer of the town of Marlborough, am called upon to perform duty in the section of the town called "French Hill" —it being occupied by French Canadians. I find them a quiet and a law-abiding class of people; disturbance of any kind is of rare occurrence, and those caused principally by strangers. I never was interfered with in the performance of my duty by them. I consider them a first-class sort of people.

Respectfully submitted.

(Signed) CHAS. MOWRY.

 

Marlborough, Oct. 12, 1881.

To all whom it may concern:

This is to certify that I have employed Canadian French for near a quarter of a century, and that I have always been pleased with them. I have found them obedient, quiet, and, in fact, they compare favorably with any I have ever employed.

(Signed) JOHN O'CONNELL, Manufacturer of Boots and Shoes.

 

Marlborough, Oct. 17, 1881.

Having, in the course of several years' service on the school committee of the town of Marlborough, become familiar with the pupils attending the public schools in that town, among whom every year may be found hundreds of children of French Canadian parentage, I can truly assert from actual observation that these children have in the past and do now compare favorably with their mates of other parentage in intelligence, morality, and deportment.

The French Canadian children are very apt, and manifest in a high degree the desirable characteristics of industry and perseverance.

In my official capacity I have frequently come in contact with the parents of these children, and they have at all times shown great interest in the cause of education, arid ever have been anxious that the young of their community should receive the benefits to be derived from our educational institutions.

(Signed) JAMES N. McDONALD, Of the School Board of Marlborough.

 

Marlborough, Mass., Oct. 25, 1881.

To whom it may concern:

This is to certify that, as a member of the school committee of this town for two years, daring which time I had under my special charge several schools of the primary grade largely composed of French Canadian children, I have uniformly found this class bright, docile, and teachable in every respect. Their reputation for good conduct was always excellent, also, among our teachers.

(Signed) E. D. PRATT.

 

To whom it may concern:

This is to certify, that in no manner have the pupils of French Canadian birth or descent caused special difficulty to the teachers of our public schools. Except in the most extreme cases, I can safely acknowledge them to be keen, quick-witted, and remarkably obedient. Teachers individually amply testify that their relations with said pupils have been especially pleasant.

In our section, at present, the majority of the pupils in question are specially apt and agreeable to training. I can recall no case, during my experience, in which even one of said pupils has committed any violent breach of good manners.

In conclusion, the French Canadian pupils in our department are not conspicuous on account of any baneful characteristics.

Most respectfully submitted.

(Signed) ELLEN A. O'CONNELL, Washington Street Department of the Public Schools of Marlborough.

I can cheerfully indorse every word of the above statement, so far as my departments are concerned.

(Signed) J. V. JACKMAN, Master of Pleasant Street Schools.

 

Marlborough, Mass., Oct. 14, 1881.

To whom it may concern:

This is to certify, that in the capacity of Treasurer of the Marlborough Savings Bank, I have constant dealings with the French citizens of this town both as depositors and borrowers, and I uniformly find them an honest, industrious, and money saving people.

(Signed) EDWARD R. ALLEY, Treasurer of the Marlborough Savings Bank.

 

Marlborough, Mass., Oct. 24, 1881.

Louis B. Talbot, Esq.

Dear Sir, — In reply to your inquiry as to my knowledge of a disposition extant among our French citizens of Marlborough to hoard their earnings under any probable contingency of a return to their native country, I must of necessity return you a negative answer. My business relations with our French population cover a period of eleven years and upwards; and the goods in which I deal being distinctive from what might be termed the necessaries of life, enables me to meet your inquiry more broadly perhaps than any other trader here could.

From positive knowledge, I can say, that in proportion to their means they spend their money as freely as those of any other nationality, in providing the essential comforts and luxuries for their homes. I find also that a very large proportion of those with whom I came in contact ten and eleven years ago are still living here, and many of them have either erected or purchased homes that they own; and, so far as outward evidence exists, they are as permanently located as any other class, not even excepting the Yankees. And, in connection with the defence you are to make, it may not be out of place to add a farther word as to my knowledge of their general character. My business connections with them have been quite extended, and my experience justifies the statement that, so far as discharging their debt obligations are concerned, they are usually actuated by a high sense of honor.

I have found them considerate, just, disposed to deal fairly, and seldom resorting to any trickery to avoid discharging an obligation. In fact, they are a people (and I think all our traders will bear me out in the assertion) with whom it is very pleasant to meet in the business affairs of every day life.

Trusting my reply may meet your inquiry, I remain yours truly,

(Signed) J. W. POPE.

Letters of similar tenor were also submitted, signed by Miss Eva S. C. Wheelock, and Miss Hattie E. Brigham, school teachers, and Messrs. Samuel Boyd, Sidney G. Fay, John L. Stone, William Barnes, John Rock, Brigham & Eager, and H. G. Fay, all of Marlborough.

Mr. Tirrell (in closing). I think that is all that I wish to present; but there are other citizens of Marlborough, French people and others, who, perhaps, would like to say a word. I would call upon Mr. Timothy A. Coolidge.

Mr. Tirrell. Where do you reside?

Mr. Coolidge. Marlborough.

Q. How long have you lived there?

A. Twenty-two years.

Q. What is your business there?

A. Manufacturer of shoes.

Q. How extensively are you engaged in that manufacture?

A. I employ about three hundred persons, making about twenty-five hundred or three thousand pairs a day.

Q. Have you carried on such a business as that for a number of years in the town of Marlborough?

A. Perhaps ten years.

Q. During this period, whether or not you have employed a large number of French Canadian people in that town?

A. I think I have employed as large a share of French people as any of the factories, perhaps more so, or as much so, at any rate. I have a large share of French people, being in that part of the town where the French people mostly reside.

Q. How many should you say you had in your employ at the present time?

A. I should say there were one hundred.

Q. Now, Mr. Coolidge, what have you to say relative to their habits of industry?

A. Well, I have always considered them as having good habits of industry, as good as any class I have had in my employ; and, out of the factory, I don't see but they are the same.

Q. How as to their intelligence, and aptness for work?

A. That is very good. Their mechanical skill is good; they are quick to see into any thing, and to take hold of any thing; they are quick, and they are always willing to do whatever is required.

Q. How do the French people of Marlborough stand in the community there, as citizens?

A. I think they are recognized the same as any other class of citizens.

Q. Whether or not they take an interest in public affairs in the town of Marlborough?

A. They do, and I think they generally show more interest than do a great many others.

Q. How about their habits through the town at large, — whether they are public violators of law, or otherwise, — I mean, take them as a class generally in the community?

A. Well, take them as a class, I consider them on an average with the other people. I live right among them. I live in a part of the town that most of the French live in; there are a number of the families on the street, and they are just as good neighbors as any neighbors I could have. I would not wish to change for any neighbors of Yankee people or Irish. They are good neighbors. Their children attend school; they dress well; they are economical, and attend church regularly as any other class of people, and they are just as quiet on Sundays. I have a chance to see that, because I live right amongst them.

Q. Any thing further, Mr. Coolidge, that you desire to say?

A. I do not know that there is any thing particular. There has been something said here in regard to strikes amongst the French people. Now, of course, in my own factory, I have had a great number of strikes, but I don't think, — and I have noticed it during the last three or four years when I have employed more French, —I don't think I have had the strikes in my factory that there have been in others. Of course, when there is a strike in the factory, the French must fall in, necessarily, — they could not do any other way and have peace, — but I am satisfied that I have not had the strikes in my factory that there have been in other factories the last three years; and I think I have employed a larger portion of French than most other factories: there is one exception, perhaps.

Mr. Dubuque. Mr. Coolidge, you were a representative for your district, I believe, last year?

Mr. Coolidge. Yes, sir, last year.

Mr. J. H. Guillet, of Lowell, then said: Mr. Chairman, I have a few statistics which I would like to offer. First, I will take the population of Lowell. It is 60,000; French Canadians, 11,000, or 18.3+ per cent of total population; amount of real estate owned by French Canadians, $275,000; French Canadians paying taxes on personal property, 83; amount of personal property owned by French Canadians, $96,000, which makes the total valuation of property owned by French Canadians $371,000. The assessors told me that the property was taxed but two-thirds of the actual value there in Lowell this year, and that is the amount which they are taxed on.

Now as to the attendance of children at school: —

Total number of children in public schools ... 6,193
Total number in parochial schools ... 1,100

That is to say, the total number of children at school is 7,298, or 12.1+ per cent of the total population. Of French Canadian children there are: —

Total number in public schools ... 925
Total number in parochial schools ... 253

Or a total of 1,178 now in school. We petitioned the city of Lowell, two years ago, to provide more schoolrooms for us. They have given us two rooms where we need ten. The school committee has been fighting all the time for two years to have rooms provided. I take the statement of Mr. Smith, of the school committee, that in one district we have 183 children who cannot attend school for want of room. I am informed that in other parts of the city there are many who cannot go to school for the same reason. They use ward rooms and every place possible for schoolrooms. Now, if we add this total of 183 French Canadian children who are prevented from attendance for lack of room to the number previously obtained, we find the whole number of Canadian school children to be 1,361, or 12.3+ per cent of the total French Canadian population.

Consider in this connection that a large part of the French population is composed of grown-up families recently arrived in Lowell, together with many young men and women who have come to make their home here, and who, being unmarried, consequently have no children to attend school.

There are in Lowell 232 French Canadians who have become naturalized American citizens, and, besides these, twenty-seven who have declared their intention to become naturalized. Please remember that the laws of this country regarding naturalization are very, strict, and that five years ago there were not many French Canadian young men here who were under eighteen years of age.

We have in our city seven French Canadians in official positions, including two public school teachers, and one member of the common council. We have a church with a seating capacity of 2,100, and also two French Canadian benevolent societies, two literary societies, and two dramatic societies, These societies give conferences on different topics every other week, and dramatic representations every month. We have a French Canadian brass band, and a French Canadian newspaper.

There are in Lowell 134 French Canadians engaged in business on their own account in the various branches of trade; there are ten physicians and seventy-one clerks. There is also a branch of the Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company of Milwaukee, Wis., in which French Canadians of Lowell have invested large sums of money.

In regard to the education of our people, the facts that they have reading-rooms, conferences, and dramatic representations so often, as I have stated; that we support a newspaper; and that we have evening classes for those who desire to attend, supported by the before mentioned associations, — are ample proofs that we may be favorably compared with any other nationality so far as educational taste is concerned.

As to our habits, I offer as facts: 1st, on every Sunday our church, which has a seating capacity of 2,100, as I have stated, is filled three times; 2d, our reading-room, connected with one of the above named associations, is well attended every night; 3d, the conferences given under the auspices of our societies every two weeks are also very well attended, and so are our dramatic representations and evening schools; 4th, that with a population of 11,000 French Canadians, we have only one saloon, owned by one of our people, where intoxicating liquor is sold, and he does not keep it himself; and 5th, that the clerk of the Lowell police court has stated to me that if the whole population of the city were French and American there would not be business enough to support the court.

In regard to the mill operatives I would state that on the occasion of the 24th of June last, when I interviewed agents of our cotton manufacturers to obtain permission to let the French Canadian help out on that day, Mr. Ludlam of the Merrimack Manufacturing Company told me that he would do it with pleasure, as he considered the French his best help. Mr. Cumnock spoke in very severe terms of the Twelfth Annual Report, and said the French were his best help. Mr. Shaw of the Tremont and Suffolk Mills, and Mr. Moulton of the Hamilton Manufacturing Company, both said that the French compared very favorably with any other nationality in their respective mills.

I have letters here from overseers. We have about half a dozen French overseers in Lowell, but I will read no letters from them, because they are interested.

Mr. Guillet then read the following letters: —

Lowell, Oct. 24, 1881.

In the capacity of overseer for the Lawrence Manufacturing Company I employ about seventy-five French Canadian people, mostly males. I find them, as a rule, punctual and steady at their work, and not given to drunkenness. I have not found them desirous of working overtime, though frequent opportunity has been given them to do so.

(Signed) S. B. Kitchen.  

 

Office of the Tremont and Suffolk Mills, Lowell, Mass., Oct. 24, 1881.

To whom it may concern, and regarding the French Canadian operatives employed in these mills:

It is my opinion, that as regards thrift, sobriety, and general good behavior and application to their labors, they compare, as a class, favorably with either of the other classes — viz., American and Irish — employed on this corporation.

(Signed) J. S. SHAW, Agent. Per Chadwick.

 

Lowell, Mass., Oct. 24, 1881.

We, undersigned, furnishing food and provisions to over five hundred French families in this city, do certify that the French Canadians as a class do like and use the best kind of meats and provisions, and don't live as paupers.

(Signed) GAUDETTE BROS.

Mr. Guillet (continuing). In the Merrimack Manufacturing Company they have an establishment called fancy work, where they employ about 175 help; and I understand 150 are French, and they are putting in looms, and I am informed that by and by the whole room will be French. They like their help and their work on this particular kind of work. The statistics I have given are for the most part taken by myself from the assessors' books; and those about the schools were given by the superintendent of schools. He is a little opposed to the French; but still he gave me very kindly these statistics, and some of the school committee were present, and they helped me considerably. These are correct; and I made them with the expectation that the books would be looked over by somebody else.

Mr. Dubuque. You have been elected president of the convention held in Fall River the first part of October?

Mr. Guillet. I have.

Q. This convention was composed of delegates from Rhode Island and Massachusetts?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Now, how long have you taken part in these annual conventions?

A. Well, I have about four years.

Q. Now, whether the question of naturalization has been discussed before these conventions? A. Yes, sir; it has many and many times.

Q. What has been the universal sentiment in the conventions with regard to this question of naturalization and repatriation?

A. Every time there were resolutions passed favoring the naturalization of the people, and requesting them to use all efforts, and to do every thing possible to get naturalized; About repatriation, — the last convention decided not to say a word about it, to let those who desired to be repatriated do it. We found out that the people were having good homes here; and those who had homes here had better stay here for the present anyway.

Q. Now, whether you have taken part in any movement  in Lowell or anywhere to secure the naturalization of our people?

A. Yes, sir; I have every year. Every year we have friends in Lowell and in Fall River, when I lived there, who have gotten up clubs, and done all we could to get the people naturalized; and they have responded pretty well. Just as soon as they understand the language, just as soon as they are of age to be naturalized, they are ready to answer, and they get naturalized.

Q. How many years have you been in the States?

A. I have been about ten years in the United States.

Q. Now, from your observation, while you have lived here in the United States, are there not a great many people who come here at the age of between forty and fifty who do not learn the English language?

A. Yes, sir; there are a great many. Of course there are a good many of that age who come here, who have families, and we don't expect to have those old gentlemen naturalized; they are too old, — they cannot learn the language. It is very exceptional to find an old man to talk English. He has come here too old; and unless he buys a piece of land or property he does not get naturalized: he don't understand the ways, he don't understand the laws, of the people among whom he lives.

Q. Now, whether or not, according to your experience, the children of those who have come here old, and cannot talk English, as soon as they get to understand the language and the customs, and become of age, get naturalized?

A. Yes, sir; they do, especially within two or three years: we have had a great many applications from people just as soon as they come of age, and before they come to age, inquiring when they would be able to get naturalized, and they get naturalized just as soon as they can.

Mr. Wright. You are acquainted with the locality called "Little Canada" in Lowell?

Mr. Guillet. Yes, sir.

Q. What is the sanitary condition of that district?

A. Well, according to the report made last year, and published this year, it is not very good; but last year those buildings which were referred to in the report published yesterday were not finished.

Q. What report do you refer to?

A. To the report of the sanitary commission of Massachusetts, published in the papers yesterday, and it created quite a breeze in Lowell, — it censured the whole schoolhouse system and Little Canada. About half a dozen of the houses there are owned by French people; but the most of them are owned by American speculators who lease the land, and build up tenement houses. The most of them are used by the French because they work more in the Lawrence and Tremont and Suffolk Mills.

Mr. Wright. Do you think the owners, or the tenants, are responsible for the bad sanitary condition?

A. The owners, undoubtedly.

Q. Who do you say own the buildings?

A. I don't know if I remember all the names; I could give half a dozen names, — Mr. Farrington, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Lombard, George W. Harris,  — Harris owns two-thirds of the place, and four-fifths are owned by Americans. The land used to be old low land, the Lowell landing they called it formerly. It is filled in with what they got from excavations when they built the mills, and with dirt from the street. It was filled with dirt of the streets for several years, but this has been stopped. I have not noticed for three or four years any filling with refuse matter.

Mr. Dubuque. I wish to put in evidence the report of the superintendent of schools of Fall River for 1881, and I have marked the places and the pages to which I want to call the attention of the Bureau. [The extracts from the report are as follows: —  

"The laws relating to the schooling o